Feedback International Fort Battle Championship 4

[EREWAN]

@Syntex apparently there is an option to have just certain % of your xp removed if you level up before the 153 level is allowed, why is it written differently in the rules? Do you have any idea how many people would use that option if they knew its possible ?

• [All] One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)

It is sad this needs to be announced by one of the participants instead of the team responsible making this clear and transparent to everybody.
Until now it's without official response and statement regarding this.
And "only once" I am wondering if this part is also lie or not.

Happy for DE2 guys that you have enjoyed the tournament, and to be fair we are enjoying it as well, but the amount of shady decisions and lack of communication and transparency is sometimes very frustrating to watch.

 

[rel1]

also whats the point of digging friendy battle for us if we cant join because we are level 153 ? I thought friendly battles dont have level restrictions

 

[kruK629]

also whats the point of digging friendy battle for us if we cant join because we are level 153 ? I thought friendly battles dont have level restrictions

It was my mistake for setting restrictions, sorry about that

 

[rel1]

It was my mistake for setting restrictions, sorry about that

will syntex reply to my 3 days old message about a rule thats obviously not true ?

 

[Szarlota]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

 

[kasperq]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

+1
This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins

 

[Prisska]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

+1

 

[NotLyrinx]

+1

+1

Spoiler

I enjoy the show very much.

 

[Johnny English]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

+1

 

[EREWAN]

+1
Us CZ team - we tried to point this out here, see @rel1 messages but we were ignored completely

 

[Jonasz93]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

+1 - cheating and favoritism

 

[OstatecznyZabujcaZaglady]

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

+1 cheating pls ban them !!!!
(I used bold font so this message is important)

 

[Zajecza Lapka]

(...)please make sure if you have any questions, address us on forum or Support, or directly me - I will be more than happy to assist you.

It seemed that most participants had trouble asking questions.

 

[EREWAN]

I don't know... was there even a reason to ask those questions?

We offer a one time level reduction in case you exceed by mistake the level cap. We will remove exactly 1 level.

It seems pretty straightforward to me, some parts are even highlighted. But others have already addressed everything. Cba

We are not even affected by this but it's total bullshit to do such things privately without communicating it clear to the whole audience.
System where rules are bent over in secret ticket dialogue is imo at least very questionable.

 

[Syntex]

Weh

How is it possible that people with level 153 couldn’t sign up for a friendly battle, but others with 153 could for the event battle?

I want to point out that two players from the PL1 team were already at level 153 on 14/06, and the same players signed up for a battle on 16/06 with level 153. Other teams also mentioned this to me after the battle.

Players from the PL1 team had their XP reduced by a specific value (from 153 to 99% of 152).

The original rules clearly state:

FIRST:

"We offer a one-time level reduction if you exceed the level cap by mistake. We will remove exactly 1 level."

"Exceed by mistake" doesn’t mean leveling up, going to battle with 153, and then lowering the level to 152.

SECOND:

“One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)”

The PL1 team knew much earlier that such a reduction (by 1%) would be possible and accepted by the admins. This information was not shared with other teams as general information.

This behavior is blatant cheating and favoritism towards one team by the admins. Players from PL1 who reached level 153 and participated in the battle on 14/06 should not have been allowed to enter the battle again on 16/06.

I'm not complaining because I lost the battle. For 2 months, we were told not to level up because we wouldn’t be able to sign up for the battle – when maximum lvl was 151, we didn’t see anyone with 152 on the battle. If someone accidentally leveled up, accodring to the original rules, they could lower it by 1 level once.

Suddenly, there is another provision in the rules that not everyone knows about because it is not provided for general information. In such a system, other people who have been keeping an eye on their XP could have already increased their level a long time ago and lowered it for the following battle by a few percent. Especially, teams that are already eliminated could have used this in their decisive battles.

It is fraudulent that some people can reach 153 to gain an advantage and then participate in the next battle with 153 again, when this information was not publicly available to every team.

When you select the level reduction in support tool you have more information.

During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)

If you do not want to be lowered at 0%, please let us know the exact XP amount you need. This value can be between the lowest value needed for that level, and the biggest value which still keeps you on that level (in case of level 151: between 24614129 and 26721541)

 

[Zajecza Lapka]

If you do not want to be lowered at 0%, please let us know the exact XP amount you need. This value can be between the lowest value needed for that level, and the biggest value which still keeps you on that level (in case of level 151: between 24614129 and 26721541)

+1

 

[rel1]

Weh


When you select the level reduction in support tool you have more information.

During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)

If you do not want to be lowered at 0%, please let us know the exact XP amount you need. This value can be between the lowest value needed for that level, and the biggest value which still keeps you on that level (in case of level 151: between 24614129 and 26721541)

so you just didnt feel the need to put this in the rules ? how many people will check the rules and how many people will check support tool ?

 

[EREWAN]

So why you cannot find this information in IFBC rules but it is hidden inside support ticket template?

You put information like this there when many people won't even bother with submitting because they believe they would lose whole 1 level.
Some parts of rules were put to the game's home page (restriction of duels), some inside of ticket templates. Something you can only find out privately from conversation with staff (finishing impossible quests).

Tell me one good reason why wouldn't you just keep all these inside one IFBC rules thread, where everybody can see it anytime. Tell me.

 

[EREWAN]

Imagine there's a shop with ice cream. And they have a big sign on the window that says "no chocolate ice cream today".
And you think to yourself, "Damn, I want to have a chocolate ice cream. Such a shame they don't have it."
So you go ahead, you don't stop. And then you come to the park and you see somebody with a cholocate ice cream.
You ask them: "Where did you get that?".
"In the shop you just passed by"
"But the sign says they don't have it"
"YOU JUST NEED TO ASK THEM BRO"

Well. That's strange, right? So you go back and you ask them. Guys you have a sign here saying you don't have a chocolate ice cream, but that guy says he got one from here.
"Yeah we have it, want one?"
"So why do you have the sign here that says you don't have..."
"You are thinking waaay to much about this, you are looking for problems where there are none"



Am I the only one who thinks this is beyond weird approach to organization of international tournament?

 

[Tutifruti]

Jak to możliwe, że osoby z poziomem 153 nie mogły zapisać się do bitwy przyjacielskiej, a inne osoby z poziomem 153 mogły wziąć udział w bitwie eventowej?

Pragnę zaznaczyć, że dwóch graczy z drużyny PL1 było już 14.06 na poziomie 153, a 16.06 ci sami gracze zapisali się do bitwy na poziomie 153. Inne drużyny też mi o tym wspomniały po bitwie.

Gracze z drużyny PL1 mieli zmniejszone PD o określoną wartość (ze 153 do 99% ze 152).

Oryginalne zasady wyraźnie stwierdzają:

PIERWSZY:

„Oferujemy jednorazową redukcję poziomu, jeśli przez pomyłkę przekroczysz limit poziomu. Usuniemy dokładnie 1 poziom.”

„Przekroczenie przez pomyłkę” nie oznacza awansowania na wyższy poziom, walki ze 153, a następnie obniżenia poziomu do 152.

DRUGI:

„Jednorazowa redukcja poziomu = Podczas wydarzenia możesz poprosić o obniżenie swojego poziomu o 1 poziom, tylko raz! Usuniemy XP, aby pozostać na poziomie 0% dolnego poziomu. (np. na poziomie 151 zmieniamy Twój poziom 150 za pomocą XP: 22628789)”

Zespół PL1 dużo wcześniej wiedział, że taka redukcja (o 1%) będzie możliwa i akceptowana przez adminów. Informacje te nie zostały udostępnione innym zespołom jako informacje ogólne.

Takie zachowanie jest rażącym oszustwem i faworyzowaniem przez administratorów jednej drużyny. Gracze z PL1, którzy osiągnęli poziom 153 i brali udział w bitwie 14/06, nie powinni byli mieć możliwości ponownego wejścia do bitwy 16/06.

Nie narzekam, bo przegrałem bitwę. Przez 2 miesiące kazano nam nie awansować, bo nie będziemy mogli zapisać się do bitwy – przy maksymalnym lvlu wynoszącym 151, nie widzieliśmy nikogo z 152 lvlem na bitwie. Jeśli ktoś przypadkowo awansował na wyższy poziom, zgodnie z pierwotnymi zasadami, mógł go jednorazowo obniżyć o 1 poziom.

Nagle w regulaminie pojawił się kolejny zapis, o którym nie wszyscy wiedzą, bo nie ma w nim informacji ogólnej. W takim systemie inne osoby, które pilnują swojego XP, mogłyby już dawno podnieść swój poziom i obniżyć go na następną bitwę o kilka procent. Szczególnie drużyny, które zostały już wyeliminowane, mogły to wykorzystać w swoich decydujących bitwach.

To oszustwo, że niektórzy ludzie mogą osiągnąć 153, aby zyskać przewagę, a następnie ponownie wziąć udział w kolejnej bitwie ze 153, gdy informacja ta nie była publicznie dostępna dla wszystkich drużyn.

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