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Feedback International Fort Battle Championship 4
- Thread starter Syntex
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EREWAN
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In IFBC rules this now still looks exactly the same. I am not sure what channels is @Syntex using for updating rules but imo it is extremely unprofessional to not just update the main rules topic here and inform about the update.
Until this is updated it makes zero sense to punish people they shouldn't be forced to look somewhere randomly over whole platform and other parts of game and forum if possibly there isn't another piece of information contradicting with what is written here.
Whoever is responsible for this and communication in general is doing really disasterous job.
We have announced it on the main page. I also updated the rules to contain this information.
Eliminated players are still here to watch. Please do not duel them. So:
- eliminated players CAN ONLY duel eliminated players
- players who are still in the championship CAN ONLY duel players who are still in the championship
This is just an explanation, because it makes sense that you should not be able to duel players who are not allowed to duel back. That would create an unbalanced gameplay.
EREWAN
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Rules should be the first place where it is updated, before you put it into announcements and wherever else.
Nothing wrong with it, they are eliminated, others are not. Why would there need to be balance between someone no longer participating in tournament and someone still playing? There is no purpose in playing after you are eliminated anyway.
There are 2 possibilities:
- If you are eliminated and duel someone who is not, you can cause disadvantage for them.
- If you are not eliminated and duel players who are eliminated, you can push yourself if the other player does not have good clothes, because they stopped playing. This could create in theory pushing. Also, if some players choose to still play as eliminated players, it is unfair for them because they are not allowed to attack back.
EREWAN
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This is correct and I absolutely agree with it.
This makes no sense. Why would someone suddenly have not good clothes because they stopped playing? They would still have their clothes equipped...
Why are you so obsessed with "pushing". There are also people still participating who might equip clothes for jobs who you can still duel at the time etc.
Also there were people from MIX teams etc. who never even equipped any items and were completely inactive and we could duel them for weeks without anybody from team caring about that.
"some players choose to still play" - there is literally nothing left for them on events server now when they are no longer in tournament. There is no category where they can participate, no rewards for duelling or anything. Why would we care about what is fair for them or not, just because they "choose" to stay. People who are still in tournament now need to double check every oponnent and their town, think about if they play or not. There are risks for them, it can influence outcome of important semi-finale, finale matches just because someone might duel wrong person by mistake.
It's the fort fights tournament why we are here and what's important.
Whoever is making all these decisions over past few months, it is clear it is person not actively playing this game.
Henry Higgins
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Towns are clearly labeled ELIMINATED. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Besides, its a FF comp and you want consistency... Keep that as the focus and one wont have to worry about little nuances that dont affect the greater outcome.
EREWAN
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NOW they are, they were NOT before... Stop white knighting when you clearly know nothing about the situation
Henry Higgins
Unassigned
Sounds like a soon to be eliminated team begging for mercy. 
/me is dark knighting
/me is dark knighting
Henry Higgins
Unassigned
In the past they did not allow eliminated players to duel. What you ask for is allowing in-comp players to take advantage of using eliminated players as pawns, while there are still in-comp players to duel against. Towns are labeled ELIMINATED, so sure, there could be a mistake, but maybe let it be a warning and not immediate sentence on first infraction. Otherwise, I'm fine with the ruling given the ongoing saga of the bear battles and not making a mod seek out any instance of an eliminated player that perhaps might be working to advance a in-comp player and focus on the real event, which is battles.
Erewan I believe you make an issue where there is none. If you want to duel people we also have the NPC characters. The other option would have been to ban eliminated players, which would have prevented them from being dueled. It is the same thing, only that we do not want to restrict them to access the server. Some may want to see how fights go, or just chat with others.
Henry Higgins
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Because you are still here arguing FOR the dueling of eliminated players by in-comp players.
And that makes zero sense if you are here to lambast admins for doing a poor job and then expecting them to do an even harder job of seeking out pushing instances through eliminated players to in-comp players versus just accepting the easier solution. Bro
Madagog
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There was an idea to cancel eliminated team towns at all and prevent players from breaking this rule. Anyway Erewan point is that the rule for players who are still in tournament was never mentioned specifically until today and its seems to me that the outcome from this could more affect the teams who are still playing by banning players not noticing rule update than letting them duel "pawns" as there are many "pawns" from other teams still participating.
Henry Higgins
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If the rationale is so that players dont make a mistake, I completely agree and understand that point. As I said, let it be a warning, and confirm that they understand this. It likely would not be a large enough outcome to warrant a instant ban, unless excessive and intentional, but I would hate to see admins have to incur a heavier load by searching for / responding to pushing instances, when they're already to the brink with organizing the main event.
If a player is unable to discern from an eliminated team and in-comp player, what else are they at risk of doing? I had to tell players on my team MULTIPLE times not to use upgraded items, as if that wasn't clear. So, the person we're speaking about then, is likely someone who A) Doesnt grasp the english language well; B) Not always reading or updating themselves to the competition rules; C) Under leadership that isn't directing them well; or D) Seeking to make themselves have an advantage in taking XP from eliminated players. All of which, fall unto the player/team, not really the admin with a rule in place.
rel1
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@Syntex apparently there is an option to have just certain % of your xp removed if you level up before the 153 level is allowed, why is it written differently in the rules? Do you have any idea how many people would use that option if they knew its possible ?
- [All] One time level reduction = During the event you can request your level to be reduced with 1 level, only once! We will remove XP in order to be at the 0% of the lower level. (e.g. at level 151, we change your level 150 with XP: 22628789)
Sunlounger
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Hello together,
I would like to thank you very much for the opportunity to continue fighting on equal terms. Many thanks to the organizers. I hope we get the opportunity to compete again in the future. I wish the teams all the best for the rest of the tournament
greetz
Sunlounger DE2
I would like to thank you very much for the opportunity to continue fighting on equal terms. Many thanks to the organizers. I hope we get the opportunity to compete again in the future. I wish the teams all the best for the rest of the tournament
greetz
Sunlounger DE2
Sancho
Unassigned
Thank you @Syntex for making this here happen. It was a great time and a lot of challenge and fun. Would love to see a classical TW-World just for the fun of it and balanced Fortbattles, PVP and Adventures. Just old stuff, no levelling, no Event-Sets. It was good to see what skill can or cant do without overpowered nugget-stuff you are forced to buy in order to keep up competing.
have a good one everybody and goodluck.
have a good one everybody and goodluck.